Talk:Tutorial - Recording Computer Playback on Windows

Gale 20Feb15: Tried to give some sensible advice for users like me for whom WASAPI loopback behavior will change in 2.1.0. It increases the length but it should help reduce support requests. Please review.
 * Changes look ok as far as they go - but on all four PCs that I tested last weekend the behavior did not fall into the categorizations you list below. On all four the sliders are ganged/"linked" but the sound is not "a fixed, safe level" but is controlled by the sound producing app - so I'm not convinced that we can say " ... WASAPI loopback recording will often be at a fixed, safe level." - sometimes it well and sometimes it won't - and our sample size is not big enough yet to ascertain which is the dominant behavior. So I think it's the use of the word "often" in that phrase that I have misgivings about.
 * Gale 21Feb15: We need to make a clear distinction here between the sound you hear and the achieved recording level in the waveform. When I say "WASAPI loopback recording will often be at a fixed, safe level", I mean the achieved recording in the waveform. On your machines, when you move either of the ganged sliders A) does that affect the sound you hear and B) does that affect the achieved height of the recorded waveform? I would expect in all cases that changing the volume level of the app playing the sound will affect the sound you hear - the problem change that I receive with full WASAPI is that there is no longer a way to change any slider to turn the volume down and still record a waveform. Muting the device in Mixer lets me still record a waveform, except on the desktop.
 * Peter 21Feb15: On all four of our Pcs (3xW7 and 1xW8)that I tested last week A) yes, moving the sliders affects the sound I hear B) no, moving the sliders does not affect the level of the recorded signal, the waveform or the meters C) the level of the recorded signal can only be managed via the sound supplying app e.g. iTunes or a webstream.
 * Gale 22Feb15: OK in 2.1.0 for me B) moving the ganged sliders affects the level of the recorded signal, as does turning down the volume in the app (whatever it is). In 2.0.6 (no ganging of sliders) I can turn down the web player volume in Firefox and record the same level, but turning down the level in WMP embedded in xplorer 2 affects the recorded level. In 2.0.6 I can always turn down or mute the volume in the Device slider in Volume Mixer without affecting the recorded level (if I was playing in xplorer 2, the recorded level I get when I mute depends on the level of the slider in the embedded player before I mute). In 2.1.0 turning the web player volume down now affects the recorded level and turning the volume down in xplorer 2 still affects the recorded level. In 2.1.0 using the device Mute in Volume Mixer no longer permits recording the audio on the Desktop, but still works on the laptop and netbook. I've modified the text and I believe it is now clear.