Talk:Noise Removal

On the Built In Effects page, there is a more detailed analysis of how to use the Noise Removal. I wonder if this page shouldn't be removed outright and let the earlier article stand on it's own.Alatham 14:48, 27 November 2007 (PST)

Hi Andy

Yes I don't think we can justify two pages for Noise Removal unless the additional page is an extended tutorial with illustrations or similar. I think we should merge the extra bit of info. on this page into the Noise Removal section of Built-in effects i.e. probably we do want a 1, 2.. type of instruction there that says exactly what the user has to do (not an explanation of what happens) and we must mention what the two smoothing controls do. I can add something on those if no one else gets to it first.

Gale

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Alistair: Expand a little ??? Gale: I've actually cut it back further, for now, without (I think) losing anything. We want to use the minimum words possible in the Reference consistent with getting a meaning across. We do however want to avoid assuming too much prior user knowledge, even here (a fault with the 1.2 Manual). So is there anything else missing in step 1? Can we give any guidance on "good settings" for light or heavy hiss, vinyl roar, tape hiss and so on? Should we also mention the optional Notch Filter for hum? Also to do is to incorporate anything useful from the following old text about Noise Removal. Note we don't want to duplicate less important information from the equivalent Wiki Tutorial MERGE ANYTHING USEFUL FROM HERE INTO THIS PAGE The Noise Removal function in Audacity 1.3.x and higher is greatly improved over the Noise Removal included with Audacity 1.2.x.  But with improvement comes a small amount of added complexity for the end user. In order to use Noise Removal, you need an audio clip with two things: Audio you want to clean up. ;A section in that audio clip of "silence" that only contains noise. Using Noise removal The procedure for using Noise Removal is as follows:1 Highlight a section of "silence" and click Effects -> Noise Removal. In this dialog box, click "Get Noise Profile." This will teach Audacity what sort of noise it should be looking for when it attempts to remove it. 2Now, highlight the selection that you want to remove the noise from and click Effects > Noise Removal. 3 At this point, we need to find the settings that will work for your signal. Most users can leave the "Frequency Smoothing" and "Attack/decay Time" settings at their default value. It is easiest to set "Noise Reduction" by trial and error, adjusting the slider and using the Preview button to listen to a few seconds of the audio after having that level of noise removed.4 Once all the settings are in place, click OK and Noise Removal will run. This effect is ideal for removing constant background noise such as fans, tape noise, or hums. It will not work very well for removing talking or music in the background. Removing noise is a two-step process. In the first step you teach the software about the noise, using a portion of your sound which contains all noise and no signal, where the recording is silent except for the noise. In the second you use that information to remove the noise from the rest of the recording. First off, you need to find a section of recording that contains only noise, and not any of your wanted sound, or people talking and the like. This doesn't need to be very long, a second is enough, and in necessary you can make it up from several places in the project (using copy and paste). Now choose Noise Removal... from the Effect menu and click "Get Profile". Audacity learns from this selection what the noise sounds like, so it knows what to filter out later. Next, select all of the audio where you want the noise removed from and choose Noise Removal... again. In th elower half of the dialog adjust the slider to control how agressive the noise removal is. Most of the time you want a low setting unless the noise is really bad. Finaly, click the "Remove Noise" button to start processing. This may take a little while because it's quite a complex effect to apply. If too much or not enough noise was removed, you can Undo (from the Edit menu) and try Noise Removal... again with a different noise removal level. You don't have to get a new noise profile again if you think the first one was fine. Removing noise usually results in some distortion. This is normal and there's virtually nothing you can do about it. When there's only a little bit of noise, and the signal (i.e. the voice or the music or whatever) is much louder than the noise, this effect works well and there's very little audible distortion. But when the noise is very loud, when the noise is variable, or when the signal is not much louder than the noise, then the result is often too distorted. If you are still having problems then the following tips may help: Do any click removal, compression or other effects after doing noise removal, not first. It works best as close to the source of the noise as possible. Make the selection you use to teach audacity about the noise a little quieter before you do "Get Profile", using the amplify effect. Duplicate your source track before you apply noise removal, and adjust the relative volume of the two tracks to get the best sound quality.